Lux Borealis - Wolf of the North (illucian) wrote,
@ 2002-09-22 23:38:00
My emotions are going on a roller coaster. I'm ashamed of myself for getting so mad. I don't usually get mad like that. It's usually frustration and tears. I'm ashamed and I wish I had never done it.
And now Punk Bat wants me to know that I won't have to worry about TalenBlaze anymore. Her words. "Won't have to worry about." Because he's dead.
I don't know what to think. But things seem to be pointing to me as the bitch of all time if someone feels they have to let me know about a death by me not having to worry about them anymore.
Not that this matters. Someone is dead, someone young. Someone I didn't know well but someone I knew and spoke to online.
I just want to be safe in Eclipse's embrace and able to cry myself to sleep...
Original Link: Lux's Livejournal entry
Commentary: At her moment of weakness, out of the blue PunkBat's IM strikes again! Or maybe it was email. Anyway... here we start off. TalenBlaze, the banned Guilder we "won't have to worry about" because he's now dead. Honestly? After he was banned in July or so, I hadn't worried about him at all. So, I guess my compassion rating froze eh?
From : Lagartixa Harlequin
How's it going?
Okay, as the subject implies, this is a little more serious than I'm generally used to. This of course may be none of my business but it's concerned me and a few other Guilders to the point that I felt you ought to know. I haven't posted anything to the board as I feel it would cause more trouble than it's worth.
Regarding the story of TalenBlaze's tragic demise...
I'll understand if you consier me crass and tactless and heartless for saying so, but it's what I believe.
I do not believe the story is true.
From the stories I've gathered from Lux and a few other Guilders, there seem to be an awful lot of loopholes and loose ends (as there inevitably are where our friend Punk Bat is concerned), and from what I (personally--I may not be alone in my conclusion, but I am taking sole responsibility for the claims in this email) can see, one of two things appears to be true:
--Either the entity known as TalenBlaze is alive and well, or
I'm leaning toward the latter at this point, for several different reasons (and it's more than just a general mistrust of anything PB says at this point--other things have come to light since the news was given on the GryphBoard).
I don't know what this would mean for the Guild except that we can collectively feel silly for having been duped, and perhaps it doesn't make a difference. However, a lot of feelings have been hurt because of this, and I think it's absolutely WRONG that someone (if indeed I am right, which I must admit I hope I am, because a lie is easier to stomach than a death) would toy with someone's feelings in such a way.
Why am I bringing this to your attention? Well, it's a shot in the dark, but you being the UberAdmin that you are, might possibly remeber or have access to information regarding the online entities of Punk Bat/TalenBlaze. I realize that most of the posts in question have long since been deleted, but occasionally backups exist. Or perhaps you, in your inadvertent monitoring of troublemakers such as Punk Bat, remember something not-entirely-kosher about the situation, such as the two of them posting from the same IP, or one accidentally dropping some tidbit of information that might allude to the fact that they were not all they appeared to be.
I don't really have a vested interest in seeing anyone get hung out to dry, so it doesn't really matter to me (well, *much*, I'll have to admit the deep subconscious desire to see Punk Bat out of the picture for good--like that will ever happen) if nothing more is said regarding the matter. Feel free to disregard this email if you don't feel any action is in order. However, if you have access to any information that would shed some light on the matter, I would strongly encourage you to pursue it further. If nothing else, I personally feel that Punk Bat should be made VERY aware that such a fabrication is NOT okay in the real world. (Whether additional action should be pursued through EZboard at that point is another decision that one might have to make).
Anyway, if you're at all interested, there is a thread on my LJ that speculates on the matter, and you can find it at:
http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=xlagartixax&itemid=62551
(and it's friends-locked, so you'll have to be logged into LJ to read it.)
Blah. I hate to be sending emails for stuff like this, but I really though you should be aware.
Anyhoo, I hope school and life is treating you well, and keep on posting the artwork--I really enjoy it.
In love, luck, and laughter--
Commentary: I was completely willing to believe the idea that TalenBlaze was dead. After Ciatol had posted ( A saved html file of that here ) about TalenBlaze's death, I was ready to take the name off the list and be sad and get over it. At the time, really, school work was more important than a banned messageboard flamer. Can you blame me? Probably, but anyway, so this e-mail set off some flags. The subsequent LJ entry as well. Thus started my hunt to see just what was up again. Keeping in mind that PunkBat was elusive as ever before, I had my work cut out for me and spent many a night trying to figure this out. And even in the day, when I was supposed to be concentrating on other stuff, I had to find this out. Suspense. Blargh.
So I did my research. Here's what I and Lux got, as outlined to the Guild's EZBoard co-admins.
The TalenBlaze/PunkBat e-mails
Commentary: So what am I talking about here now, in this e-mail? Well it should be pretty obvious. My research yielded some stuff, but at the same time I was indecisive of what to do about this discrepancy. Again I wasn't ready to just say that this was it and throw down the book. But here's some shots.
Screen Shot 1 - AIM's Buddy Find wiz Search - This one was for ononoke@hotmail.com, one of PunkBat's known hotmail addresses.
Commentary: I ought to stop here, but the crap keeps coming. I was asking myself after this: Why would anyone, two people no less, have to use 1 email account to sign up for AIM? Come to think of it, what was TalenBlaze's email address? Or CatGirl Kisuna's? TalenBlaze and CatGirl Kisuna had no Livejournals. Talen here had to use PunkBat's email address to get an EZBoard. Notice that TalenBlaze's public profile sets himself up as a waiter in New York. Yet, he's supposedly only 13 years old. And lives (or rather, lived) on a farm. All this hokey stuff had me convinced that ok yeah, I got fooled. But, in effort to save my own pride and also because I wanted an explanation from PunkBat in the face of this glaring evidence, I put together an e-mail to try and get her to tell her story. It was her chance to say everything she could say. I think you'll agree that the attempt to prove her innocence is pathetic, and completely unagreeable.
Commentary: What really pisses me off is her absolute GALL to try and use the suicide route against me. If there's anything that almost makes me want to kill a person, it's a person threatening to commit suicide. Yes, that sounds hypocritical, but goddamnit. Never, ever should someone tell me that they want to commit suicide BECAUSE OF MY ACTIONS. I'm sorry, but I don't see how some online person hundreds of miles, maybe even thousands of miles, away from me should influence how worthy I am to live. Anyway... oh did she mention the pony? Right, there's a sick pony in there too. Boo-fucking-hoo. I think I feel more sorry for any animal in this girl's care than I am about her emotional state of being. It's Just That horrible. Yeah. Well, so is faking a person's death by dropping a tractor on them.
Oh, and just so as to reason out why CatGirl Kisuna and Punk Bat were probably the same? Have a gander at the IPs on this thread file.
I posted a final closing statement to the Guild, stating my conclusion after all this. It's a hoax. We were duped. End of story. Or was it? Apparently not, because PunkBat continued to make an issue out of this. She decided to continue IMing Illucian and her "friends" trying to claim her innocence. To the point that even They were annoyed and wanted to ignore her.
From : "Keirala Nekobird" Keirala@gryphon.zzn.com
Kitty: hiyas ^^
Snugs,
Commentary: Note to anyone who's trying to prove a point - starting a conversation with LET ME KILL MYSELF! is not a good method to argue your point.
Also, as a minor AIM log between Lux and Myself, I was growing more than irritated. Taking notes here, someone told PunkBat to ban Lux from her Just Imagine board. Right, and she mindlessly follows through? Likeshine, also banned. But me? Not banned. How strange. And all this talk about a pony. Or two ponies. But wait, it was TalenBlaze who lived on the ranch/farm wasn't it? See how the facts get muddled around now? I was, in essence, wanting the matter to drop in its entirety because I found it utterly ridiculous. I still do. But this is just another pebble to add onto the mountain.
IllucianLux (Lux) and Saihawk (Me) AIM Log - 09-29-2002
Lux Borealis - Wolf of the North (illucian) wrote,
Punk Bat IMed me with some drama queen tragics. She said that Unakavierde or Skayiin banned me from Just Imagine. Funny, I was talking to Una at the time and Una said she said the opposite, that it would be foolish.
Oh, and apparently TalenBlaze is from Streamwood, Illinois. I looked up the local paper for the area...
http://press.chicagosuburbannews.com/obituaries/
No mention even in the obituaries, and you'd think that accidental death of a 13-year-old would be front page news of a local paper.
She says she would never want attention. But she started the IM conversation with "Please let me die now!"
I wish she'd stop lying.
Ah, but you'd think there was a newspaper article somewhere. Anywhere. Well, PunkBat provided us with one.
And just when you think that she's dropped the subject, she goes and IMs some more folks. With all the threats of suicide, and such, I wasn't sure when I would expect an obituary to crop up for PunkBat herself.
10-28-2002: AIM Log, Unakavierde and Ononoke Hino (PunkBat)
Commentary: I do have one question here. What's this line about? Quote: Ononoke Hino (6:31:32 PM): *drops his spooky flashlight and falls over* ?? Who's "his" referring to? TalenBlaze? Is this some kind of candlelight vigil thing I missed? Oh yeah, and the newspaper article. Well, where's the rest of the newspaper? Or is the scanner completely broken after that one scan? Maybe it broke because it knew the lie that was going to be perpetrated. But anyway... this just further goes to show what utterly piece of tripe has been happening about this Punk Bat.
To : oceans_wrath@hotmail.com
Subject : Serious--from Harli.
Date : Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
Heya Stormy/Viv/Xiaolang--
--TalenBlaze never existed and has been a fabrication of Punk Bat's (and or someone else) from the beginning.
Harlequin
Results Shot 1 - AIM: ononoke@hotmail.com - And the results. Check out those SNs! Look familiar?
Screen Shot EZBoard pub profile - TalenBlaze's Public Profile
Screen Shot EZBoard pub profile - CatGirl Kisuna's Public Profile
Screen Shot 2 - AIM's Buddy Find wiz Search - This one for ononoke123@hotmail.com, after remembering that Ononoke123 was one of the SNs for AIM.
Results Shot 2 - AIM: ononoke123@hotmail.com - The results. 1 SN, that I haven't heard of before.
Screen Shot 3 - EZBoard - Talen's Hut, supposedly Talen's EZboard. However, when I visited, there was only me and one other member. TalenBlaze. And 1 post on that board, nothing else.
Unfare? - www.ezboard.com - Exact same IPs, same date, a couple of hours apart. What's the probability of two computers containing the exact same IP address on the same day, within a couple of hours of themselves? Someone? Anyone?
To : oceans_wrath@hotmail.com
Subject : Punk Bat
Date : Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:54:30 -0400
as I posted in response to the message refferring to Punk Bat on the GG, I have some news... I'll sum it up by posting a convo between me and FlyingKitty, who DOES know her irl. There was more to the convo but this is all there was that pertains to Punk Bat/Talenblaze/Kisuna/etc. And... I'd appreciate it if nobody let Punk Bat know I submitted this info... I already feel like a hypocrite, and I don't want her to be IMing me repeatedly telling me so. It's bad enough with her IMing me to say "PLEASE LET ME KILL MYSELF" so... thank you. Now the convo.
KeiralaGryphon: Hiii
Kitty: whoats up?
Kitty: whats*
KeiralaGryphon: meh... did you know what happened with Punk Bat...?
Kitty: yea
KeiralaGryphon: ...is it true?
Kitty: might be. I thought that she was playing TalenBlaze but I couldn't prove it 100%
KeiralaGryphon: Did you know Talenblaze?
Kitty: Nupe.
KeiralaGryphon: mrr. She said that he lived in your town...
KeiralaGryphon: Not to mention that he loved you o.o
Kitty: when he first IMed me (it was on my catlover669 account) he's all like "OH!! FLYINGKITTY! I LOVE YOU! kisser her 100000ect. times*" i'm like excuse me?
KeiralaGryphon: o.O;;;;
Kitty: the clues that gave punky away were that "talen" kept finding my new AIM s/ns my email addresses, punkys personality leaked through and the font colour
KeiralaGryphon: Well.... that proves it for me. ;_; I was just hoping that it wasn't true...
Kitty: me too. *sigh*
KeiralaGryphon: mrrr... What about Kisuna?
Kitty: Thats her. I know thatone for a fact. She's never acctually come straight out and told me but there never really was more than kisuna on JI. Did that make sense..?
~Keirala~
@ 2002-09-29 17:33:00
Current mood: disgusted
The Obituary - Originally it was in .BMP form, but for file size purposes I compressed it into a JPG. But! The most important thing to note here Not the fact that the paper is obviously white. It's not the fact that a two line obituary is an awfully sad obit for what should have been a major headline in a farming community. No... I think the most important factor here is the word "insident". Yes... remember that word? No? You haven't been paying attention then. I said to remember it. What are the odds, that a newspaper article writer and PunkBat would spell the same word wrong? Probably just a bit better than winning the Lottery.
